Cmde. Slavyanski's Impotent Nerd Rage

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

Found in my reputation counter:

"dont play with me faggot bolshevik. If "rep" is so important to you i'll neg you into oblivion."

From Einsatzkommando.

Frankly, the little Hitler wannabe can neg rep me to his heart's content. I actually have a life outside this forum. The question is however, while mentally-ill people like this may be tolerable as members, is it wise to have one as an admin or mod?

[Hunter Wallace]

I don't like the reputation system. You can always turn it off. I have done so. Ideological tension is going to be a fixture of this place. :%

[Daniel Shays]

We should abolish reputation once we get the "thanks" hack installed.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

I don't like the reputation system. You can always turn it off. I have done so. Ideological tension is going to be a fixture of this place. :%

The rep thing isn't the big deal. The question is do we want someone who resorts to childish insults like "faggot" where he doesn't expect to be found out?

[Hunter Wallace]

The reputation system has been a cause of mischief on every forum that I have ever posted on. I had it completely disabled at OCD to avoid incidents like this one. This is a discussion forum, not a popularity contest. I see that Shays is already planning to dispense with this feature. Good move.

[Metal Gear]

I support disabling rep. I've posted on many phpbb and smf boards, which don't come with rep unless you modify them. There is much less division and needless fighting.

In addition, niggermania disables rep and has less fighting.

[Hunter Wallace]

I prefer the Thank You system that Patria has at GdV.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

I support that idea then. I could care less about something like "rep", but the problem is that the rep system gives people the ability to show their true colors, where the gallery cannot see. Let those who want to toss the word "faggot" around go play Counter-Strike or post it in a thread.

[Hunter Wallace]

We should be trying to raise the tone. Point taken.

[Lenin1917]

Stromfront had positive rep. only, that was O.K. I though.

[Metal Gear]

stormfront's system leads to unrealistic flattery...as positive feedback is allowed but negative is not.

I say either use rep the whole way or don't use it at all.

[Hunter Wallace]

B-Pep is just telling Slavjanski that he likes him. This is his usual colorful way of doing it. :D

[Hunter Wallace]

The reputation system is worth disabling to get rid of the Stan type posters alone.

[funderbunked]

The reputation system is worth disabling to get rid of the Stan type posters alone.

I hate the "rep" system. Have never once used it here.

To me, it stinks like Donkey ass. Niccolo used to love "giving rep" at his Speakeasy.

Sink it.

[EinsatzKommando]

Found in my reputation counter:

"dont play with me faggot bolshevik. If "rep" is so important to you i'll neg you into oblivion."

From Einsatzkommando.

Frankly, the little Hitler wannabe can neg rep me to his heart's content. I actually have a life outside this forum. The question is however, while mentally-ill people like this may be tolerable as members, is it wise to have one as an admin or mod?


1- You neg repped me first. Didn't your momma ever teach you not to pick fights with giants?

2- I hate you, but that doesn't mean I will have bias against you as Administrator in terms of policy etc. This is a free speech site, so you, theocide, etc can lobby like whiney jews all you want, but you won't win.

3- I agree with replacing the rep system with the Thank You system. In the meantime, another neg rep is coming your way for hurting my feelings.

[Hunter Wallace]

I still remember when the reputation system was reset (i.e., The Repocaust) at our previous residence. Grown men were positively demoralized by the loss of green squares in their User CP. At the time, it was one of the most ridiculous episodes that I had ever seen on the internet.

[EinsatzKommando]

I still remember when the reputation system was reset (i.e., The Repocaust) at our previous residence. Grown men were positively demoralized by the loss of green squares in their User CP. At the time, it was one of the most ridiculous episodes that I had ever seen on the internet.

It is very pathetic, and frankly I am getting annoyed at all these people crying over it.

[Hunter Wallace]

People like Tranny Featherston and Stan brag about the number of rep points they accumulate. It's really not such a big deal.

[Pasdaran]

Stanfag neg repped the hell out of me at stumble inn before he "banned" himself from there.

[funderbunked]

Stanfag neg repped the hell out of me at stumble inn before he "banned" himself from there.

Pasdaran: How are you gonna deal with the new Firezone policy of you and I not being able to post at StumbleInn?

[Metal Gear]

Pasdaran isn't a mod, he's a diplomat. Diplomats are allowed mobility between the forums I believe.

[funderbunked]

Pasdaran isn't a mod, he's a diplomat. Diplomats are allowed mobility between the forums I believe.

ho ho

This is getting confusing. Anyway, I've not posted to StumbleInn since Shays sed not to. But if Pasdaran can, I will.

I don't like "exceptions" (see: Thomas777's status).

[Beria]

ho ho

This is getting confusing. Anyway, I've not posted to StumbleInn since Shays sed not to. But if Pasdaran can, I will.

I don't like "exceptions" (see: Thomas777's status).

It's not an exception though. Pasdaran does not represent this board as a staff-member. His diplomatic status is not equivalent to your position as a moderator here. What is being discussed here applies strictly to staff members as a precaution against further allegations and a means of putting this petty nonsense behind us and moving forward strictly on this board.

[Hunter Wallace]

Pasdaran: How are you gonna deal with the new Firezone policy of you and I not being able to post at StumbleInn?

We don't associate Pasdaran with the guttersnipes like Tranny Featherston, OVERWATCH, and il ragno who post there. He's an honorable man. Not once has he attacked us, slandered us, libeled us. We don't antagonize others for the sport of doing so. Those who seek good relations with us will find themselves amongst friends at The Firezone.

[funderbunked]

It's not an exception though. Pasdaran does not represent this board as a staff-member. His diplomatic status is not equivalent to your position as a moderator here. What is being discussed here applies strictly to staff members as a precaution against further allegations and a means of putting this petty nonsense behind us and moving forward strictly on this board.

It's a moot point. Tried to log into StumbleInn and got a "BANNED/Never" message.

In any event, and I'm not picking any fight with Pasdaran, but if he does have Mod privs. here, he shouldn't post at StumbleInn. Same for Thomas777 at phøra.

'tain't brain surgery.

[Hunter Wallace]

ho ho

This is getting confusing. Anyway, I've not posted to StumbleInn since Shays sed not to. But if Pasdaran can, I will.

We're paranoid about these forums because of how we seem to be attacked all the time there. This latest incident about "data mining" credit card information has all of us on edge. Shit like that is now being circulated in our name.

I don't like "exceptions" (see: Thomas777's status).

Thomas777 is a victim of harassment. We sympathize with his ordeal. Back in 2005, my credit card number was stolen after the last hack of The phøra. It was a hassle to get it changed.

[funderbunked]

Feyd: You sympathized with "Niccolo," who posted physical threats about you. Then you gave him a double-do-over, when he claimed that he didn't write that which you clearly saw over at phøra, in which he slammed Firezone and said he was only here to fuck with me. Then he got the boot.

You were wrong. (& I called it, from the get-go.)

Please admit this. Just do it.

[Hunter Wallace]

It's a moot point. Tried to log into StumbleInn and got a "BANNED/Never" message.

Good for you. We all need to forget about this soap opera. I haven't been participating in it over there for almost a month and a half now.

In any event, and I'm not picking any fight with Pasdaran, but if he does have Mod privs. here, he shouldn't post at StumbleInn. Same for Thomas777 at phøra. 'tain't brain surgery.I overreacted yesterday in the wake of all the bullshit allegations about "data mining" credit card information. I recommended a firewall to keep that sort of crap off this website. This is ultimately nothing more an internet messageboard. We all need to calm down and return normal. The disruption will cease if simply ignore what goes on at other forums.

[Hunter Wallace]

Please admit this. Just do it.

You were right about him. That said, there is no good reason to dwell on the matter. Just forget about Niccolo and move on.

[funderbunked]

You were right about him. That said, there is no good reason to dwell on the matter. Just forget about Niccolo and move on.

Agreed.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

1- You neg repped me first. Didn't your momma ever teach you not to pick fights with giants?

I can't really remember, because I moved out of my mom's place quite some time ago. Pity you still live with your parents. You have got to be the most pathetic "Internet Tough Guy" I have ever run across, and keep in mind I was at VNN for at least four years,


2- I hate you, but that doesn't mean I will have bias against you as Administrator in terms of policy etc. This is a free speech site, so you, theocide, etc can lobby like whiney jews all you want, but you won't win.

I could care less about that. The point is you are a delusional moron and you really shouldn't be the mod of a board that wants to have a good reputation. There are plenty of National Socialists and racialists who are capable of having some kind of intelligent debate. You are not one of them.


3- I agree with replacing the rep system with the Thank You system. In the meantime, another neg rep is coming your way for hurting my feelings.

Keep em coming. I know you need that little thrill in your life.

Beware though, for on this forum lurks a force that feeds off the souls of those who take forums too seriously. His eyes will soon be upon you.

[IlluSionS667]

1- You neg repped me first. Didn't your momma ever teach you not to pick fights with giants?

2- I hate you, but that doesn't mean I will have bias against you as Administrator in terms of policy etc. This is a free speech site, so you, theocide, etc can lobby like whiney jews all you want, but you won't win.

3- I agree with replacing the rep system with the Thank You system. In the meantime, another neg rep is coming your way for hurting my feelings.

Fair enough, I'd say. If he provoked you to act as you did, then he shouldn't complain.

I can't really remember, because I moved out of my mom's place quite some time ago. Pity you still live with your parents.

Quite the childish remarks here, please. With the real estate market these days, many people still live at their parents at the age of 25 or older. I would have waited to move out of my parents' place a while longer myself if I had been single.

Second, I can't remember him saying anything about living with his parents. Are you sure he does?

You have got to be the most pathetic "Internet Tough Guy" I have ever run across, and keep in mind I was at VNN for at least four years

The fact that you hung around at VNN for four years doesn't speak in your favor. ;)

I could care less about that. The point is you are a delusional moron and you really shouldn't be the mod of a board that wants to have a good reputation.

He dod go a bit overboard with the insults, but he seems to imply that you provoked him. If you did provoke him, then you have no reason to complain. Your own insults in your last post do not speak in your favor.

There are plenty of National Socialists and racialists who are capable of having some kind of intelligent debate. You are not one of them.

I hope you consider me one of them. ;)

Anyway, I'd love to continue our little PM discussion. I'm still waiting for a response.

If you do decide to respond, please provide some sources for your claims whenever I ask for it. Otherwise, it will end up in a childish yes-no debate with repeating arguments. Of course, I will do the same whenever possible.

Keep em coming. I know you need that little thrill in your life.

Beware though, for on this forum lurks a force that feeds off the souls of those who take forums too seriously. His eyes will soon be upon you.

If you feel the need to complain about one silly negative reputation point, I don't think you have the right to patronise EinsatzKommando with regards to taking forums too seriously. ;)

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

Quite the childish remarks here, please. With the real estate market these days, many people still live at their parents at the age of 25 or older. I would have waited to move out of my parents' place a while longer myself if I habeen single.

Yeah, I'm the guy being childish while this little Hitler-worshipper runs around calling people "faggot" and considers himself a "giant" because he has an admin position on an internet forum.


Second, I can't remember him saying anything about living with his parents. Are you sure he does?

I am sure of it.



The fact that you hung around at VNN for four years doesn't speak in your favor. ;)

The fact that they banned me several times does.



He dod go a bit overboard with the insults, but he seems to imply that you provoked him. If you did provoke him, then you have no reason to complain. Your own insults in your last post do not speak in your favor.

Nobody provoked him. He can't argue any facts, so he turns to petty methods. If he wants to call me a fag, let him do it on the board where everyone can see. He doesn't want to do that, because he knows he will lose all credibility; thus he used the rep system.



I hope you consider me one of them. ;)

Anyway, I'd love to continue our little PM discussion. I'm still waiting for a response.

I'll work on that. Last night I typed a response to the first part, then my computer crashed and I was too pissed off to continue. I would like to write the responses in a way that doesn't limit things to 5,000 characters, because I had the same problem on just one of responses. Perhaps we could just make this into a thread, since there is obviously nothing that needs to be confidential about it.


If you do decide to respond, please provide some sources for your claims whenever I ask for it. Otherwise, it will end up in a childish yes-no debate with repeating arguments. Of course, I will do the same whenever possible.

Happily, but I don't want to hear any of this "Jewish propaganda" or "they fabricated this" then.



If you feel the need to complain about one silly negative reputation point, I don't think you have the right to patronise EinsatzKommando with regards to taking forums too seriously. ;)

It's not the rep point I'm complaining against. It's the childish behavior.

[Hunter Wallace]

I'm moving this to the the HeLL forum. This exchange reminds me of the rep point war between Stan and IlluSionS667 back in Fall 2006.

[Pasdaran]

I'm moving this to the the HeLL forum. This exchange reminds me of the rep point war between Stan and IlluSionS667 back in Fall 2006.

Stanfag was neg rep bombing one of his fellow Flemmings?

[Hunter Wallace]

Stanfag was neg rep bombing one of his fellow Flemmings?

Yes.

It spilled over to OCD in 2006. The rep point war culminated in the banning of IlluSionS. Here's the transcript.

From the OCD archives:

Illusions wrote, 26. September 2006, 17:36

Most of you probably know my from The phøra or other forums. I just left there today because the admins' arrogance, the intellectual level each post and the intellectual level each user started to annoy me too much. Akhnaton suggested me to come here. I think it was Aistulf who also suggested me earlier to come here.

For those who do not know me, I'm a programmer with collecting old books, designing wallpapers (some have probably seen my wallapers at Volkermord.com, deviantart.com or another forum), designing winamp skins and political discussions as primary hobbies next to usual stuff such as watching films or travelling.

My views currently are situation somewhere in between those of Spengler, Evola, Hitler, Rosenberg, Himmler and De Benoist. Since I am insufficiently familiar with the viewpoints of all of these people, I can't say who of them is my greatest influence. Nationalism, traditionalism and communitarianism are definitely strong elements within my personal views, though.

For the same reason, I no longer identify myself as a national socialist as I did about a year ago, but I rather prefer referring to myself as a traditionalist, which is not only a far more vague term but also a much less stigmatised term. My views have changed little to nothing, though. I still support the vast majority of what I've read in national socialist literature, but also eg. what I've read on De Benoist's views in O'Meara's New Culture, New Right: Anti-Liberalism in Postmodern Europe (http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5248).

Feyd wrote, 26. September 2006, 19:17

What's this latest spat about?


OVERWATCH wrote, 27. September 2006, 08:59

Hi there Fade

This all started over the 'reputation game'. Illusions sends negative rep to Stan. Stan sends three consecutive negative reps to Illusions. Illusions makes a giant fuss, PMing all the staff, starting a dramatic 'complaints thread',and demanding that Stan be ousted from adminship for this relatively insignificant matter. He is making a mountain out of a molehill. Personally, I think 'rep bombing' is stupid; while it is somewhat unprofessional, neither it, nor the reputation system itself, has any direct bearing on the primary purpose of a discussion forum- which would be discussion. Mod tools, which bear directly upon the membership's ability to fulfill the primary purpose of the forum, were not abused.

I suppose this goes to show how the repsys tends to sidetrack things.

I advised him that, if he is so bothered by being sent three consecutive negative reps by Stan, that he is free to turn off his reputation, as others have done; which fell on deaf ears; instead, he continued to irrationally prosecute his grievance to outlandish proportions.

Illusions was banned from the phøra essentially because there is no point in keeping someone around who themself states that 'browsing this site is a waste of time', takes time to make sigs, avatars, and profile pics slandering the forum and staff, and obviously doesn't want to be there. So he was helped out the door.

So there you have it

Illusions wrote, 27. September 2006, 11:37

This all started over the 'reputation game'. Illusions sends negative rep to Stan. Stan sends three consecutive negative reps to Illusions. Illusions makes a giant fuss, PMing all the staff, starting a dramatic 'complaints thread',and demanding that Stan be ousted from adminship for this relatively insignificant matter.

What a distortion of the facts :rolleyes:

Basically Stan (Charles Martel) made his zillionth post filled with catholic supremacist hogwash. Now, being raised as a catholic I don't have a problem with catholicism at all, but I do have a problem with the very arrogance and ignorance he portrayed. So I dediced to give him a negative rep point with a comment on how sickening his supermacist nonsense had become.

Stan apparently couldn't swallow that type of criticism and decides to give me three negative rep points on consecutive posts in the same thread, merely out of petty retalliation. As a result, I did two things :
- I posted a reply in that very same thread, stating that that type of behavior is childish and abuse of his admin privileges (since only staff can give three consecutive rep points to the same person).
- I sent a PM to several staff members to report this abuse.

On any normal forum, the admin in question would have been given at least a warning to the admin in question that this behavior is intollerable. On some forums, he might even have faced a loss of his admin rights. Not on The phøra, though.

Both Flak (Lt. William Bligh, RN) and Jack wrote an angry reply to me as if I had instigated some kind of rep war. Rather than punishing their abusive collegue, they started calling me all kinds of names and completely ignored the abuse I had reported. At the same time, my comment about the report in the thread in question and the replies that followed had been relocated to a seperate thread, labelled "Illusions667's complaints corner (http://www.*************/forum/showthread.php?t=13670)". The title itself should make it obvious that I was not the one who created that thread.

I never mentionned and specific desire that Stan should be removed from his position as an admin, but rather ousted that on other forums it would have been custom to punish an abusive admin. Removing his position as an admin was just an example, as I clearly stated in my correspondence with Flak. Giving him a warning - which was another example I mentionned - would have probably been a more adequate response.

He is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Me? I was not the one who started a seperate thread on the issue. I was not the one who ordered me banned, although I had already left out of my own free will. I was not the one who started namecalling other and distorting the issue just to actually make a point. I was not acting utterly hypocritical, as you have been doing.

Personally, I think 'rep bombing' is stupid; while it is somewhat unprofessional

Exactly. That, in combination with the fact that his 'rep bombing' was an abuse of his admin rights, is why I made my complaint to begin with. It's utterly absurd that you started namecalling me for doing what every normal person would do in such a case. Would you have rather had me rep bombing Stan back in some way possible without admin rights?

I advised him that, if he is so bothered by being sent three consecutive negative reps by Stan, that he is free to turn off his reputation, as others have done; which fell on deaf ears; instead, he continued to irrationally prosecute his grievance to outlandish proportions.

I told you several times that I don't care about the damn rep points. I did care about Stan's abuse of his admin privileges and his petty attitude. You somehow kept ignoring this and kept continuing on issues that were totally irrelevant, since it was - apparently - the only way you could possibly make a point.

Illusions was banned from the phøra essentially because there is no point in keeping someone around who themself states that 'browsing this site is a waste of time', takes time to make sigs, avatars, and profile pics slandering the forum and staff, and obviously doesn't want to be there.

First of all, I had already left the forum out of my own free will. A PM discussion with Flak was my only activity on the forum after I had sent a PM to my 13 favorite posters with a request to join my to OC. Two of them already sent me a reply shortly after that PM to inform me that they would follow my advice, since they were getting rather pissed off about the situation on The phøra themselves.

My reason for leaving The phøra was not merely this recent issue. That was just the last straw. Fade, you probably still remember my complaints about Sulla's behavior a few months ago. Had you and Akhnaton not convinced me to stay back then, I would have already left then. Besides that issue, I was also getting quite sick of Globus' trolling and the frequent relocation of interesting threads to rarely visited subsection of the forum (which makes spending an hour or more on a post rather pointless and disappointing). Then, of course, there's also the steady increase in the percentage of low brow posts on The phøra. About these issues too I have complained to you about in the past, and I know of others complaining about it too.

I was quite surprised to notice I got banned from The phøra, since I had already left out of my own free will. He probably just banned me because he didn't really have any arguments and he couldn't stand me leaving the forum in an honorable way with my head up high. This shows he is just as petty and as childish as Stan.

Anyway, before Flak changed my avatar in the repulsive thing it is today, I did change my own avatar and profile image as some sort of playful protest against the events that had occurred as well as a symbolic act to state my leave is permanent and not some temporary thing or an act. Not only did Flak decide to remove these expressions of free speech (wasn't The phøra a free speech forum once?), he apparently decided to replace my avatar by some repulsive gimp image (http://www.*************/forum/showthread.php?t=13670) that is exactly opposite to the honorable behavior I had displayed in posting a formal complaint about the 'rep bombing' (rather than going into this myself) and my self-imposed leave of the forum after I was treated in a highly disrespectful and even offensive manner by Jack and Flak of The phøra administration. It's funny how his only post on this forum sofar is a post badmouthing me in an effort to tarnish my reputation on this forum as he has been doing on The phøra. Again, this illustrates how petty and childish he really is. How deep did The phøra sink, when they're left to that kind of people?! No wonder the number of lowbrow threads is so great these days.

These are the images I had used before my leave :

OVERWATCH wrote, 3. October 2006, 13:22


On any normal forum, the admin in question would have been given at least a warning to the admin in question that this behavior is intollerable.
On some forums, he might even have faced a loss of his admin rights. Not on The phøra, though.

Yes, you essentially said that he should be stripped of his admin rights (even though he helps pay for the place) for exercising his ability to send multiple reps- by invoking what "any other forum would do". This is typical of your irrational whining, which also manifests itself by your continued whining about your thread regarding the illuminati, which was many weeks ago rightfully moved from a serious forum, into a more fitting place. Get over it!

Rather than punishing their abusive collegue,

So you claim to have clairvoyance? How do you know what did, or did not, transpire behind closed doors?

they started calling me all kinds of names and completely ignored the abuse I had reported.

Both points are false.

Indeed, my angry little friend, t'was you who first resorted to insults via PM with myself.

At the same time, my comment about the report in the thread in question and the replies that followed had been relocated to a seperate thread, labelled "Illusions667's complaints corner (http://www.*************/forum/showthread.php?t=13670)". The title itself should make it obvious that I was not the one who created that thread.

Nothing "obvious" about it, as I thought you, given your flair for internut drama and whining as the prima donna you are, had created it yourself.

Illusions wrote, 4. October 2006, 02:08:

Yes, you essentially said that he should be stripped of his admin rights

No, I didn't. That's just your interprettation of what I said. I said he should be punished in any way, SUCH AS a stripping of admin rights.

(even though he helps pay for the place)

Which explains why trolls and arrognant morons are running the place. Give some money, and you become God. Do not give any money, and you are nothing. Great way to run a forum :rolleyes:

This is typical of your irrational whining, which also manifests itself by your continued whining about your thread regarding the illuminati, which was many weeks ago rightfully moved from a serious forum, into a more fitting place. Get over it!

Just because you are too narrowminded to even consider a conspiracy that is not approved by the "BritZOG" machine, that doesn't make it an any less serious topic. Thousands of people have done endless research on this since the late 19th century and numerous literature since then has been published on it, sometimes with excellent peer reviews. Especially pre-WW2 literature is highly interesting and qualitative. Nevertheless, this is an off-topic issue in an already off-topic topic.

By the way, it's quite pathetic you feel the need to "defend" your own irrational actions on a forum where you have made no other contributions except this very slandering. Why don't you go to your own forum to badmouth others and leave us alone, thank you. This tread is not created for your badmouthing.

So you claim to have clairvoyance? How do you know what did, or did not, transpire behind closed doors?

In every single comment you've made, you put the whole blame on me and not single blame on him, even though all I did was report him.

Both points are false.

That's your opinion.

Indeed, my angry little friend, t'was you who first resorted to insults via PM with myself.

??

Nothing "obvious" about it, as I thought you, given your flair for internut drama and whining as the prima donna you are, had created it yourself.

You don't have a clue who I am.

[IlluSionS667]

Wow, that's old.

It's quite interesting to see how little my views have changed, whereas my vocabulary did change quite significantly. "BritZOG"? What the hell was I thinking?! :D

[Hunter Wallace]

Here's another thread of this nature:

Spark wrote, 8-21-2007

He is manipulating the system in order to flood my account with negative reputation. He has given me three such points in the last few minutes:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4831/untitledht4.png

(......)

OVERWATCH wrote, 8-21-2007

Spark, don't worry about it.

Reputation is, in essence, little more than a quick sort of PM system.

If Stan wishes to childishly bombard you with negative rep, kindly ignore it, or turn your rep off. I do not consider this 'abuse of power'.

General Jack D. Ripper wrote, 8-21-2007

Crybaby, I have yet to see any jew whine as bad as you do.

(........)

EBVSITANVS wrote, 8-22-2007

Ok, enough soapopera

General Jack D. Ripper wrote, 8-22-2007

Allow me the last word if you will.

spark: hang yourself from the highest tree for all I care

burrhus: see spark

ragno: when did I ever blame you or anybody else here for hating anybody? You are the one who always attacks people for not marching to your one man party line concerning the j00 problem. Perhaps I should unban kane so that you have somebody to vent on.

[Pasdaran]

Stanfag would neg rep bomb Lenny on there and even on on Stumble inn.

What a fucking prick.

[Hunter Wallace]

That's why I call him the "rep point assassin." I remember how he used to PM other members asking them to send him reputation points. He wanted to inflate his score above everyone else. BTW, how did he get banned/disable himself? Elaborate.

[Pasdaran]

That's why I call him the "rep point assassin." I remember how he used to PM other members asking them to send him reputation points. He wanted to inflate his score above everyone else. BTW, how did he get banned/disable himself? Elaborate.

Lenny told me that stanfag said that he isn't going to post at Stumble Inn as long I have sway there.

[HoloBot]

I can't really remember, because I moved out of my mom's place quite some time ago. Pity you still live with your parents.

One chord Mollochite. Always with the Protocols. Maybe his parents like mine were great people. It was an honor to live with them. Just like jews always trying to dividing the goyim.

"Leave the family unit and work for the Jew banker." Pshaw. Did your parents molest you? I heard that is a big problem with in bred Chosen Ones. :dance:

[Hunter Wallace]

Where is Lenny these days? We want him to join The Firezone.

[Pasdaran]

Where is Lenny these days? We want him to join The Firezone.

No idea, last time I only managed to talk with him for 5 minutes a few weeks ago.

[Hippias]

I'd think twice about inviting Lenny here. I have nothing against him, but if he joins the Firezone, he's bound to get into it with Boleslaw.

[Pasdaran]

I'd think twice about inviting Lenny here. I have nothing against him, but if he joins the Firezone, he's bound to get into it with Boleslaw.

What's the deal between them?

[Hunter Wallace]

The Reformation.

I think Shays had created a forum for Lenny, but he never showed up and it was deleted. Where is nemo? I haven't seen him lately.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

One chord Mollochite. Always with the Protocols. Maybe his parents like mine were great people. It was an honor to live with them. Just like jews always trying to dividing the goyim.

"Leave the family unit and work for the Jew banker." Pshaw. Did your parents molest you? I heard that is a big problem with in bred Chosen Ones. :dance:

Wow, you are certainly NOT mentally ill by any stretch of the imagination.

I love how as soon as I brought the topic up, all the Nazis charge in defending the virtue of living at home.

[HoloBot]

Wow, you are certainly NOT mentally ill by any stretch of the imagination.

I love how as soon as I brought the topic up, all the Nazis charge in defending the virtue of living at home.

I am here to please Cmdr.

[HoloBot]

Dupe.

[EinsatzKommando]

I can't really remember, because I moved out of my mom's place quite some time ago. Pity you still live with your parents. You have got to be the most pathetic "Internet Tough Guy" I have ever run across, and keep in mind I was at VNN for at least four years,

What is so pathetic and "tough guy like" about telling you not to pick flame wars with an admin, especially since you don't have a reason? 90% of the crap you spout is "You're mentally ill" "you're crazy" "all you talk about is jews", you sound like a broken record from the Frankfurt school, people who constantly use phrases like that do it because they have no argument.

And why are you talking about living or not with ones parents? Yes, I live with my parents. I am still young and am a college student. Why is this something to be ashamed about? It sure beats going out to dorm with degenerates and communist drug addicts on campus.


I could care less about that. The point is you are a delusional moron and you really shouldn't be the mod of a board that wants to have a good reputation. There are plenty of National Socialists and racialists who are capable of having some kind of intelligent debate. You are not one of them.

See, you flamed me again. Maybe the first thing this board needs to do is get rid of annoying little trolls like you who do nothing but flame and throw hysterical fits when things don't go exactly your way.

I have nothing to prove to you. What is intelligent debate anyway? Every time I have challenged you , you have no answer, compose whole posts of flames and personal insults, or change the subject! You are just an insecure egghead who needs to constantly stroke his undeserved ego by calling himself intelligent. I have a feeling this is Der Sozialist the red queer on the phøra, if it is than pettiness is your expertise.



Keep em coming. I know you need that little thrill in your life.

Beware though, for on this forum lurks a force that feeds off the souls of those who take forums too seriously. His eyes will soon be upon you.

Yes indeed, those are called whiney hysterical kikes like you and theocide who will throw a fit and is probably frustrated in real life over a red square that was next to your name.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

What is so pathetic and "tough guy like" about telling you not to pick flame wars with an admin, especially since you don't have a reason?

Who picked a flame war with you? Any time someone criticizes your childish actions(such as renaming this thread), you call it picking a flame war.


90% of the crap you spout is "You're mentally ill" "you're crazy" "all you talk about is jews", you sound like a broken record from the Frankfurt school, people who constantly use phrases like that do it because they have no argument.

Use the search function and post some proof of this. PS- Did you ever read anything by anyone who ever worked for the Frankfurt school? Just curious.


And why are you talking about living or not with ones parents? Yes, I live with my parents. I am still young and am a college student. Why is this something to be ashamed about? It sure beats going out to dorm with degenerates and communist drug addicts on campus.

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I KNEW IT!!!



See, you flamed me again. Maybe the first thing this board needs to do is get rid of annoying little trolls like you who do nothing but flame and throw hysterical fits when things don't go exactly your way.

How am I a "troll". Please look at the threads I have started and explain how I am a troll. You just can't carry on a reasonable debate.


I have nothing to prove to you. What is intelligent debate anyway? Every time I have challenged you , you have no answer, compose whole posts of flames and personal insults, or change the subject!

Really? Post a link. Usually it tends to be the other way around.




Yes indeed, those are called whiney hysterical kikes like you and theocide who will throw a fit and is probably frustrated in real life over a red square that was next to your name.

Again, I don't give a shit about rep. Apparently you do.

[IlluSionS667]

What is so pathetic and "tough guy like" about telling you not to pick flame wars with an admin, especially since you don't have a reason? 90% of the crap you spout is "You're mentally ill" "you're crazy" "all you talk about is jews", you sound like a broken record from the Frankfurt school, people who constantly use phrases like that do it because they have no argument.

He did manage to put up a few decent arguments in a PM dicussion I had with him, but it only lasted for a few PMs back and foreward. He seems to have given up replying to my arguments.

And why are you talking about living or not with ones parents? Yes, I live with my parents. I am still young and am a college student.

Could you tell us how old you are?

Why is this something to be ashamed about? It sure beats going out to dorm with degenerates and communist drug addicts on campus.

Actually, it doesn't. Student life in a dormitory is an important aspect of growing up. If you don't like the student culture at your university, you can always join or start a counter-culture. For example, a friend of mine started his own local section of a radical Flemish-nationalist student movement and he's very active writing articles or organising events for that movement.

Who picked a flame war with you? Any time someone criticizes your childish actions(such as renaming this thread), you call it picking a flame war.

Did you direct any complaints to the Administration before you started a public thread about it? Public complaints are usually not the best way to deal with such an issue, as I experienced in the past. Public complaints tend to be the beginning of a flame war indeed.

How am I a "troll". Please look at the threads I have started and explain how I am a troll. You just can't carry on a reasonable debate.

You keep making the same already debunked arguments and you frequently make false accusations. Some consider this trolling.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

What argument did you "debunk"? You claimed Nazi Germany wasn't imperialist, which is hilarious. Then you continue to claim that Germany didn't start the war despite numerous sources regarding Operation Himmler, which was Germany' clear attempt to start the war.

[Effendi]

When I first started reading this board, I appreciated your input and positive repp'd when you had something decent to say.

Now that you have made it clear that your simply an immature jew shill, I wish there was a way to block the crap you write so I wouldn't have to see it.

You lower the bar on the board with your changing the words people say to suit your convenience. It is standard fare for a zionist piece like yourself.

And don't bother saying that your no jew, what matters is what you support and you have chosen to support lies and pass them along yourself.

From now on you are formally to be known as comrade semantics, since you twist words and argue lies.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

When have I ever said anything "Zionist". You complain about people twisting words, while mis-labelling people?

[IlluSionS667]

What argument did you "debunk"? You claimed Nazi Germany wasn't imperialist, which is hilarious. Then you continue to claim that Germany didn't start the war despite numerous sources regarding Operation Himmler, which was Germany' clear attempt to start the war.

Of course the Third Reich wasn't imperialist. Just because it tried to restore the damage of the Treaty of Versailles prior to the war and because it invaded countries from a tactical point of view during the war, that doesn't make the Third Reich imperialist. Hitler had no intention to annex eg. Belgium or Holland into the Reich.

Show me one German document or testimony that proves this Operation Himmler. ;)

When I first started reading this board, I appreciated your input and positive repp'd when you had something decent to say.

Now that you have made it clear that your simply an immature jew shill, I wish there was a way to block the crap you write so I wouldn't have to see it.

You lower the bar on the board with your changing the words people say to suit your convenience.

That's the exact same feeling I have. He does have some potential, but he's ruining it by repeating the same lies over and over, which I have already dealt with numerous times and at nauseam.

[Effendi]

The question is do we want someone who resorts to childish insults like "faggot" ?

http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2005/113-2/crybaby.jpg

Stop crying comrade fag

[Apocales]

http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2005/113-2/crybaby.jpg

Stop crying comrade fag

/facepalm.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

Of course the Third Reich wasn't imperialist. Just because it tried to restore the damage of the Treaty of Versailles prior to the war and because it invaded countries from a tactical point of view during the war, that doesn't make the Third Reich imperialist. Hitler had no intention to annex eg. Belgium or Holland into the Reich.


Invading other countries and exploiting their resources, controlling and replacing their governments, is called IMPERIALISM buddy. They did just that in Poland, Yugoslavia, and other areas. These were not "tactical", in fact it is part of Grand Strategy.


Show me one German document or testimony that proves this Operation Himmler. ;)

Gee...let's start with the testimony of Alfred Naujocks, THE GUY THAT ACTUALLY LED THE OPERATION: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/12-20-45.htm

Here's a tip: Just because you never heard of something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Oh wait, maybe the "enemies of National Socialism" made THAT up too, just like they made up Operation: Overlord to embarrass the Third Reich!


That's the exact same feeling I have. He does have some potential, but he's ruining it by repeating the same lies over and over, which I have already dealt with numerous times and at nauseam.

SHOW..ME..ONE..LIE. Just one.

[IlluSionS667]

Invading other countries and exploiting their resources, controlling and replacing their governments, is called IMPERIALISM buddy.

It depends on the context. Germany did it to be able to survive a war inflicted upon her by the two greatest colonial empires of the era. It did not desire to build up a colonial empire, like its enemies.

They did just that in Poland, Yugoslavia, and other areas. These were not "tactical", in fact it is part of Grand Strategy.

There was no grand strategy.

Gee...let's start with the testimony of Alfred Naujocks, THE GUY THAT ACTUALLY LED THE OPERATION

So they found a patsy to make a false testimony at Neuremberg to clear the guilt of the English public.

SHOW..ME..ONE..LIE. Just one.

Try reading all of your posts first and ask again.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

It depends on the context. Germany did it to be able to survive a war inflicted upon her by the two greatest colonial empires of the era. It did not desire to build up a colonial empire, like its enemies.

Absolute bullshit, I'm beginning to think you didn't even read MEIN KAMPF. Hitler spoke favorably of imperialism for Germany and other countries. He just believed that Germany should have a contiguous land empire without minorities, which is precisely what they did in the Wartheland in Poland and planned to do in the occupied territory of the Soviet Union.

Again, Germany started the war. Not Britain, not France, Germany. It engineered the false incident, it invaded Poland while knowing that England and France would declare war due to it.



There was no grand strategy.

This is probably the stupidest thing you have ever wrote, and I'm beginning to think you may be a high school student now. You don't even know what grand strategy is.



So they found a patsy to make a false testimony at Neuremberg to clear the guilt of the English public.

Child like thinking- bingo.

You ask for evidence, evidence is provided, you claim it was false.

With that kind of reasoning, don't talk to me about evidence, things being refuted, etc.

I will tell you this one more time: Do not try to bluff your way through a debate. It is apparent that before I brought it up, you never knew what Operation Himmler was, and you probably never heard of it before. In fact you almost admitted to as much. Now you are trying to deny something that is akin to denying Operation Barbarossa or Overlord. You are making an ass of yourself.

Before you became a Nazi, you should have at least read up on the object of your affection. Now I realize how vital I was to the cause of modern National Socialism. It is so pitiful that its debates must be carried by people like you and Einsatzkommando.



Try reading all of your posts first and ask again.

No, show me a lie. The burden of proof is on you, always has been.

[IlluSionS667]

Absolute bullshit, I'm beginning to think you didn't even read MEIN KAMPF. Hitler spoke favorably of imperialism for Germany and other countries.

Hitler wasn't oposed to colonialism from an ethical point of view. He rather considered it impractical. Colonialism requires the domination of one people by another, and this would always remain unstable. Besides that, it's incompatible with the national-socialist concept of self-determination.

Hitler believed Germany should expand its territories in areas with little to no population, so there would be enough space for German settlers to move in and build their own farms and no native population to resist. Heavily populated areas like Holland would never be useful for that purpose and Hitler explicitly stated a desinterest in gaining extra land in the West. He did express a desire to defeat communism and use the desolate parts of Russia for that purpose, though. Hitler was this as the only way for Germany to develop itself as Germany itself was quite overpopulated for a nation extending its agriculture.

Although it's not colonialist, I know this desire to gain Russian land could be interepretted as imperialistic. If you do, then we would agree that Germany had one imperialistic goal. But that's just it.

Again, Germany started the war. Not Britain, not France, Germany. It engineered the false incident, it invaded Poland while knowing that England and France would declare war due to it.

You must be a comedian.

It was England who made promises to Poland to make Poland withdraw from negotiations with Germany, so Germany would pose its ultimatum and England could sign as mutual defense pact with Poland right before the invasion. If England truely wanted peace, it would not have provoked Germany as it did, it would not have signed the mutual defense pact when it did and it would not have declared a war on Germany with that rag as an excuse.

This is probably the stupidest thing you have ever wrote, and I'm beginning to think you may be a high school student now. You don't even know what grand strategy is.

So because I disagree with you, that doesn't mean that I'm an ignorant high school student? :%

It's just that the invasion of Poland and the invasion of Yugoslavia were completely unrelated and not part of some grand strategy whatsoever.

It is "you have ever written", by the way...

So they found a patsy to make a false testimony at Neuremberg to clear the guilt of the English public.
Child like thinking- bingo.

You ask for evidence, evidence is provided, you claim it was false.[/QUOTE]

One testimony at a political show trial does not constitute as reliable evidence for an action that's highly relevant in determining the guilt for the German invasion in Poland.

I will tell you this one more time: Do not try to bluff your way through a debate. It is apparent that before I brought it up, you never knew what Operation Himmler was, and you probably never heard of it before. In fact you almost admitted to as much.

Don't twist my words again. I've heard of Operation Himmler numerous times, but I've simply never seen any evidence for it.

Now you are trying to deny something that is akin to denying Operation Barbarossa or Overlord.

Operation Barbarossa and Operation Overlord are known facts. I have numerous '40s magazines, pamphlets and books from both sides to document the events in my own private library. Operation Himmler, on the other hand, is not so well-documented and seems to be nothing but a British propaganda lie.

Before you became a Nazi, you should have at least read up on the object of your affection.

I have... and I still do so, when I find the time.

Now I realize how vital I was to the cause of modern National Socialism. It is so pitiful that its debates must be carried by people like you and Einsatzkommando.

How vital you were to the cause of modern National Socialism?!? :%

No, show me a lie. The burden of proof is on you, always has been.

Try reading some of the books and articles I linked to in previous posts. Then come again.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

Hitler wasn't oposed to colonialism from an ethical point of view. He rather considered it impractical. Colonialism requires the domination of one people by another, and this would always remain unstable. Besides that, it's incompatible with the national-socialist concept of self-determination.

Europe colonized land that used to belong to Native Americans, by driving them off it. It's not the same as just ruling over a people, but it is imperialism no less.


Hitler believed Germany should expand its territories in areas with little to no population, so there would be enough space for German settlers to move in and build their own farms and no native population to resist. Heavily populated areas like Holland would never be useful for that purpose and Hitler explicitly stated a desinterest in gaining extra land in the West. He did express a desire to defeat communism and use the desolate parts of Russia for that purpose, though. Hitler was this as the only way for Germany to develop itself as Germany itself was quite overpopulated for a nation extending its agriculture.

10,000 Ignorance points awarded!!!!

The Wartheland was not sparsely populated. The areas he wanted in the European Soviet Union were not sparsely populated. The Nazis' own estimates showed that to achieve their goal, they would have to remove 80 million people from the territory they wanted, pushing them off their own land east of the Urals.


Although it's not colonialist, I know this desire to gain Russian land could be interepretted as imperialistic. If you do, then we would agree that Germany had one imperialistic goal. But that's just it.

The Germans also annexed other desired areas, such as the Srem in Bosnia. They assisted other little empires like Romania and Hungary in carving up territories they wanted, and Hitler's "one imperialistic goal" in the Soviet Union would have been massive.



You must be a comedian.

This from the guy that claimed Hitler wasn't an imperialist, didn't know that European Russia is the most densely populated part, thought the Einsatzkommando was some kind of counter-guerilla combat unit.

If I'm such a comedian, why don't we compare our views on any mainstream forum out there, or why don't you submit them to some history professors. Of course you'll come back bitching about "Jewish domination" of academia after being laughed out.


It was England who made promises to Poland to make Poland withdraw from negotiations with Germany, so Germany would pose its ultimatum and England could sign as mutual defense pact with Poland right before the invasion. If England truely wanted peace, it would not have provoked Germany as it did, it would not have signed the mutual defense pact when it did and it would not have declared a war on Germany with that rag as an excuse.


England did not "provoke" Germany, in fact it was the first country to sign an agreement with Nazi Germany, which allowed it to begin re-arming its navy. Hitler was well aware of Britain's stance, and in fact was convinced of their weakness(which is why he attacked France before the Soviet Union). They had already given him the Rhineland and Czechoslovakia, and did nothing about his rearming. And BTW, for a guy that didn't want war, how do you explain the massive rearming and militarization of Germany society? Pretty strange for a guy that just wanted to peacefully regain one city in Poland huh?




So because I disagree with you, that doesn't mean that I'm an ignorant high school student? :%

Many people disagree with me. People that display MASSIVE ignorance about basic facts of a major historical events probably never had much of a grounding in history. Claiming that Germany didn't have a grand strategy is something like saying that they didn't have an economy either.


It's just that the invasion of Poland and the invasion of Yugoslavia were completely unrelated and not part of some grand strategy whatsoever.

Nonsense.


It is "you have ever written", by the way...

Remember, when you are completely beaten with facts, resort to pointing out trivial grammar errors.



One testimony at a political show trial does not constitute as reliable evidence for an action that's highly relevant in determining the guilt for the German invasion in Poland.

They were not political show trials, and the testimony of the guy who actually carried it out, as well as the German generals, does indeed count as damning evidence.



Don't twist my words again. I've heard of Operation Himmler numerous times, but I've simply never seen any evidence for it.

I'm sure you were looking for evidence too.



Operation Barbarossa and Operation Overlord are known facts. I have numerous '40s magazines, pamphlets and books from both sides to document the events in my own private library. Operation Himmler, on the other hand, is not so well-documented and seems to be nothing but a British propaganda lie.


If you HAD heard of Operation Himmler, you would have known how ridiculous it is to deny it. Even your wording "seems to be nothing but a British propaganda lie" shows your ignorance here.

It seems like a lie, because it contradicts your bizarre worldview.




I have... and I still do so, when I find the time.

No, clearly you have not.



How vital you were to the cause of modern National Socialism?!? :%

Moreso than you will ever be apparently.

[HoloBot]

The point is you are a delusional moron and you really shouldn't be the mod of a board that wants to have a good reputation.

This is a flame.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

This is a flame.

Yes, and the thing in front of you is called a KEYBOARD. Very good. This is the hell sub-forum afterall.

[HoloBot]

Originally Posted by Cmde. Slavyanski

Who picked a flame war with you?

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Just helping answer your question.

What were you before you played commie at Vnn? I remember you chuckling about it on another forum. Just curious. Was it a white nationalist?

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

Originally Posted by Cmde. Slavyanski

Who picked a flame war with you?

===

What were you before you played commie at Vnn? I remember you chuckling about it on another forum. Just curious. Was it a white nationalist?

I was a White Nationalist for four years, before I moved to Europe and saw with my own eyes how White Nationalism's claims simply don't add up in the real world. That and for four years I had seen enough nutcases, retards, and corrupt "leaders" in the movement, among other things. If you take the time to look back further on VNN, you will see what I am talking about.

[HoloBot]

I was a White Nationalist for four years, before I moved to Europe and saw with my own eyes how White Nationalism's claims simply don't add up in the real world. That and for four years I had seen enough nutcases, retards, and corrupt "leaders" in the movement, among other things. If you take the time to look back further on VNN, you will see what I am talking about.

Okay thanks. I believe you about VNN. If I ever need 24/7 news of the latest insane black criminals, a one sided "God is not real cause I can't see Him" argument, and the status of Linder's latest ADL funding drive I will be sure to scroll back issues. :)

[J G]

So many rep wars, my god it never ends wherever you go.

What about a system where everyone can give positive rep but negative rep must be 'purchased' from a type of bank controlled by the forum owners. This could take the form of real purchases of neg rep ability paid out to the owner to be used toward paying for the forum expenses or have a charity or cause that money for red jewels goes towards. This would seperate the men from the bois very quickly.

Sure, some people will look at it as bribery but it is not really that it is pay to play, if you want to be obnoxious and send someone 50 to 75 negreps you fucking pay for that right.

Give everyone say 5 negreps a month to use or not use and from there on out buy the fucking things.

[Metal Gear]

well here we shut off rep