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MrMitty
01-06-2005, 02:51 AM
U.S. Should Not Help Tsunami Victims Thursday December 30, 2004 By: David Holcberg

Our money is not the government's to give.

As the death toll mounts in the areas hit by Sunday's tsunami in southern Asia, private organizations and individuals are scrambling to send out money and goods to help the victims. Such help may be entirely proper, especially considering that most of those affected by this tragedy are suffering through no fault of their own.

The United States government, however, should not give any money to help the tsunami victims. Why? Because the money is not the government's to give.

Every cent the government spends comes from taxation. Every dollar the government hands out as foreign aid has to be extorted from an American taxpayer first. Year after year, for decades, the government has forced American taxpayers to provide foreign aid to every type of natural or man-made disaster on the face of the earth: from the Marshall Plan to reconstruct a war-ravaged Europe to the $15 billion recently promised to fight AIDS in Africa to the countless amounts spent to help the victims of earthquakes, fires and floods--from South America to Asia. Even the enemies of the United States were given money extorted from American taxpayers: from the billions given away by Clinton to help the starving North Koreans to the billions given away by Bush to help the blood-thirsty Palestinians under Arafat's murderous regime.

The question no one asks about our politicians' "generosity" towards the world's needy is: By what right? By what right do they take our hard-earned money and give it away?

The reason politicians can get away with doling out money that they have no right to and that does not belong to them is that they have the morality of altruism on their side. According to altruism--the morality that most Americans accept and that politicians exploit for all it's worth--those who have more have the moral obligation to help those who have less. This is why Americans--the wealthiest people on earth--are expected to sacrifice (voluntarily or by force) the wealth they have earned to provide for the needs of those who did not earn it. It is Americans' acceptance of altruism that renders them morally impotent to protest against the confiscation and distribution of their wealth. It is past time to question--and to reject--such a vicious morality that demands that we sacrifice our values instead of holding on to them.

Next time a politician gives away money taken from you to show what a good, compassionate altruist he is, ask yourself: By what right?

David Holcberg is a research associate at the Ayn Rand Institute in Irvine, Calif. The Institute promotes the philosophy of Ayn Rand, author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead.


http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/...gi?ArtNum=79919 (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=79919)

Snouter
01-06-2005, 02:53 AM
The Marshall Plan to help Europe after a war the US won was a logical thing to do. Billions for Negros in Africa who cannot control their impulse to put their penises in anuses, prostitutes and in children's orifices is illogical. Billions for the primitives vicitimized by the tsunami makes sense only if the investors are gaining a measure of ownership and power in return for their investment. Of course the question as to who is auditing the cash flows is an even bigger issue. How can anyone be sure the money is not getting to Muslim groups? I find that Bush 41 and 43 and Clinton parading around asking American citizens for cash to be disgusting especially when there are more important things that the cash could be used for.

AntiYuppie
01-06-2005, 02:53 AM
Not only should our government not participate in Tsunami relief, but private individuals and charities should be discouraged from doing so as well. Third Worlders breed like flies as it is, from the perspective of population control this Tsunami and the likely outbreak of various epidemics that will follow may turn out to be the best thing that has ever happened to some of these nations.

Stan
01-06-2005, 02:54 AM
Sure AY, and then wonder where all those refugees come from. I don't like seeing MY taxmoney to them either, but I know that the less nasty the situation gets there, the fewer refugees Europe will see. I don't trust our gouvernments in stopping them at the borders...

SteamshipTime
01-06-2005, 02:54 AM
Originally Posted by AntiYuppie
Not only should our government not participate in Tsunami relief, but private individuals and charities should be discouraged from doing so as well. Third Worlders breed like flies as it is, from the perspective of population control this Tsunami and the likely outbreak of various epidemics that will follow may turn out to be the best thing that has ever happened to some of these nations.


Brutal. But honest. Hell, a house falls down in Asia and next thing you know 100 people are dead.

Two-thirds of this money will go to lining bureaucrats' and NGO's pockets.

cerberus
01-07-2005, 02:54 AM
I have no objection to £ that I have paid tax on going to help this region , presently my daughter owes me a reasonable amount of money- I told her to pledge it to the relief operation.
Should Uk goverment match this amount I would rather they do this than waste it on some of the schemes that are flavour of the month with Tony Blair.
This is something more than a house falling down or a simple wave breaking on a shore , 200,000 people plus are dead.
It may seem emotive but extortion is not on my mind nor am I thinking that Muslim groups are even as we speak thinking of how to get their hands on donated cash.

Sorry I beg to differ the Western should help.

otto_von_bismarck
01-07-2005, 02:55 AM
Originally Posted by AntiYuppie
Not only should our government not participate in Tsunami relief, but private individuals and charities should be discouraged from doing so as well. Third Worlders breed like flies as it is, from the perspective of population control this Tsunami and the likely outbreak of various epidemics that will follow may turn out to be the best thing that has ever happened to some of these nations.

Disaster relief is diffrent from endemic 3rd world economic incompetence, while I can sympathize with the no tax money should go to the 3rd worlders view unless you want to see Australia and the West Coast flooded with refugees you better let private charities do their job.

Hawk
01-07-2005, 02:56 AM
Originally Posted by cerberus
This is shameful,shallow and nothing short of disgusting.
Sorry to seem to be on the moral high horse but its my gut reaction , should you ever be unfortunate enough to be in the same or a similar position I hope you will meet with greater charity and humanity than you would dispense at this moment .

I think what AY says is perfectly valid.
I sincerely doubt that if this were to happen to us, these same people or others would show little sympathy for us. Also, if we westerners were hit by a crisis like this, we wouldn't be high tailing it else where expecting charity.

cerberus
01-07-2005, 02:56 AM
"Not only should our government not participate in Tsunami relief, but private individuals and charities should be discouraged from doing so as well. Third Worlders breed like flies as it is, from the perspective of population control this Tsunami and the likely outbreak of various epidemics that will follow may turn out to be the best thing that has ever happened to some of these nations."
I find this sickening.

So many returning surivors to the Uk had nothing but praise for the local population in the help given to them to Western holiday makers in the wake of this tragic event.

Their experiences and sense of gratitude is so much at odds with what
"AntiYuppie" believes the response of the Western nations should be.

Truely sickened by indifference and off hand attitude to the loss of life.
200,000 plus deaths "this Tsunami and the likely outbreak of various epidemics that will follow may turn out to be the best thing that has ever happened to some of these nations."

Sleep well in your comfortable bed and enjoy your "MacDonalds" or whatever fast junk food you indulge in.
Perhaps the words sung by Bono on the Live Aid Single can apply equally to the Tsunami.

This is shameful,shallow and nothing short of disgusting.
Sorry to seem to be on the moral high horse but its my gut reaction , should you ever be unfortunate enough to be in the same or a similar position I hope you will meet with greater charity and humanity than you would dispense at this moment .

Hawk
01-07-2005, 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by AntiYuppie
If a Tsunami struck US or British shores, you can be certain that there wouldn't be too many Eastasian versions of our "cerberus" preaching brotherly love.

I would add, they would think we deserved it and be happy. Indeed, if the damage was big enough, an invasion from such countries wouldn't be an unlikely possibility.

Oswald Mosley
01-07-2005, 11:16 PM
Deary me Cerberus what an irrelevent load of dribble, you should ask to join the Blair regime after that performance.

Why on earth would it be immoral for the west not to help? Why on earth do we westerners owe these sub-humans a living?

We tried to help these sorts of countries by colonizing them in the past but what thanks did we get? Absolutely none. Yes they were living under our control but it is a proven fact that a majority of the countries were a lot better off for it. If these people that you defend are so great why was it easy for countries like us to take them over? Because when we got there they were so backwards.

"None of these people were coming to the Uk" . Yes none of them WERE coming to the UK but if we hand out pocket money the greedy child will come back for more.

"Many depend on professional staff from overseas as we can not produce enough Doctors and Nurses of our own."
Yes we do rely on overseas doctors. Have you ever wondered why? Its because immigrants flooded to our country and the NHS could not cope. So the only thing we could do was to educate the immigrants and make them into the needed doctors and nurses to cope with the increased demand. Your statement lacks integrity.

"Funny there was an occasional painter and decorator and part time picture postcard artist from Austria who wanted to be a german who had the same ideas about jews".
So what if Hitler had the same idea about the Jews whats your point?

"No its about saving life , can't you see that ?"
Yes and i put the question to you, why should we help them? We have no duty to them we are responsible for ourselves as they are for themselves.

"Race is not the issue"
Another ludicrous statement, this is natures way if ridding herself of the weak and leaving the superior humans. Why do these disasters always happen in 3rd world countries you ever asked yourself that?

"You don't know much about the last war do you ?"
Oh yes i forgot that the tsunami affected areas, were the areas where our army came from in world war 2.

cerberus
01-08-2005, 02:59 AM
Yes DD considering our favorite past times of witch burning , burning catholics and prostestants whichever was in season etc , Europe was a pretty forward thinking outfit at the time and for some years followinghttp://www.phøra.org/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Still we Europeans are well cluded in now arn't we , we have all the answers. http://www.phøra.org/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

"we give one wretched group of darkies" , yes pretty sophisticated , forward thinking and jolly good chaps.

ThuleanFire
01-08-2005, 03:00 AM
Originally Posted by cerberus
Race is not the issue , life and death are the issues - can't you see that ?


This sentiment reminds me of John F. Kennedy's ridiculous remark that "we all breathe the same air." Well, so do cows and sheep.

It really strikes me sometimes how foolish people in America (or the West in general) get when disasters strike Third World countries--I overheard some ladies the other day discussing adopting Thai Tsunami babies. I call these people who think that we need to rearrange our lives and shed tears for the unnumbered souls on the other side of the world sufferers of "Sally Struthers Syndrome." If you're inclined to adopt any babies as a result of this incident, at least adopt a Swedish baby that can better fit into the traditional racial matrix of this country. [And I question the stability of prospective parents who are moved to seek parenthood as a result of a barrage of images on a TV screen over the course of a few days--what will happen to these parents the next time they change the channel?]

My view of the Asian tsunami is that the planet is cleaning itself. Actually, I thought of a new weapons system for George W. Bush to invest in; better than a "Daisy Cutter" bomb, just call this one the "Plate Jiggler," and base it on some of that secret Tesla technology that's out there.

Stan
01-08-2005, 10:58 PM
It's not just Blair, the Tories fucked you over too before him.

AntiYuppie
01-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by ThuleanFire
This sentiment reminds me of John F. Kennedy's ridiculous remark that "we all breathe the same air." Well, so do cows and sheep.

It really strikes me sometimes how foolish people in America (or the West in general) get when disasters strike Third World countries--I overheard some ladies the other day discussing adopting Thai Tsunami babies. I call these people who think that we need to rearrange our lives and shed tears for the unnumbered souls on the other side of the world sufferers of "Sally Struthers Syndrome." If you're inclined to adopt any babies as a result of this incident, at least adopt a Swedish baby that can better fit into the traditional racial matrix of this country. [And I question the stability of prospective parents who are moved to seek parenthood as a result of a barrage of images on a TV screen over the course of a few days--what will happen to these parents the next time they change the channel?]

My view of the Asian tsunami is that the planet is cleaning itself. Actually, I thought of a new weapons system for George W. Bush to invest in; better than a "Daisy Cutter" bomb, just call this one the "Plate Jiggler," and base it on some of that secret Tesla technology that's out there.


Exactly right. Altruism towards the outgroup, due to an identification with an abstract "humanity" rather than one's own people, will be the downfall of Western man.

You see childless white couples all over America and Europe adopting Eastasian and negro children. How often does one see affluent colored couples adopting or caring for disadvantaged whites? Similarly, how often do non-white nations offer aid to the West if a disaster (earthquake, hurricane, etc) happens to strike? Almost never, because non-whites tend to have a much stronger sense of "us and them" than do westerners.

If a Tsunami struck US or British shores, you can be certain that there wouldn't be too many Eastasian versions of our "cerberus" preaching brotherly love.

AntiYuppie
01-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Every cent the government spends comes from taxation. Every dollar the government hands out as foreign aid has to be extorted from an American taxpayer first. Year after year, for decades, the government has forced American taxpayers to provide foreign aid to every type of natural or man-made disaster on the face of the earth: from the Marshall Plan to reconstruct a war-ravaged Europe to the $15 billion recently promised to fight AIDS in Africa to the countless amounts spent to help the victims of earthquakes, fires and floods--from South America to Asia. Even the enemies of the United States were given money extorted from American taxpayers: from the billions given away by Clinton to help the starving North Koreans to the billions given away by Bush to help the blood-thirsty Palestinians under Arafat's murderous regime.

The question no one asks about our politicians' "generosity" towards the world's needy is: By what right? By what right do they take our hard-earned money and give it away?

The reason politicians can get away with doling out money that they have no right to and that does not belong to them is that they have the morality of altruism on their side. According to altruism--the morality that most Americans accept and that politicians exploit for all it's worth--those who have more have the moral obligation to help those who have less. This is why Americans--the wealthiest people on earth--are expected to sacrifice (voluntarily or by force) the wealth they have earned to provide for the needs of those who did not earn it. It is Americans' acceptance of altruism that renders them morally impotent to protest against the confiscation and distribution of their wealth. It is past time to question--and to reject--such a vicious morality that demands that we sacrifice our values instead of holding on to them.

Next time a politician gives away money taken from you to show what a good, compassionate altruist he is, ask yourself: By what right?

David Holcberg is a research associate at the Ayn Rand Institute in Irvine, Calif. The Institute promotes the philosophy of Ayn Rand, author of Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead.

While I generally agree with the message of the article, the general hypocrisy of the source shines through as always.

The Cult of Ayn Rand is quick to condemn foreign aid and "socialist" nations, except for one - Israel. Note the reference to "US dollars for Arafat's murderous regime." Yet they don't seem troubled in the slightest by the fact that billions of US dollars go to another muderous (and equally "socialist" and "statist," those two great bogeymen of the Rand cult) regime in the Middle East. Now, why do you suppose that is? Could it have anything to do with ethnicity trumping ideology in the case of Mr. Holcberg and the late Alissa Rosenbaum herself?

Sarah
01-09-2005, 02:57 AM
Originally Posted by David Holcberg
..billions given away by Bush to help the blood-thirsty Palestinians under Arafat's murderous regime


"When I first got to Hebron I wouldn't open fire on little children. And I was sure that if I ever killed or hurt anyone, I'd go so crazy that I'd leave the army. But finally I did shoot someone, and nothing happened to me. In Hebron I shot the legs off of two kids, and I was sure I wouldn't be able to sleep anymore at night, but nothing happened. Two weeks ago I hurt a Palestinian policeman, and that didn't affect me either. You become so apathetic you don't care at all. Shooting is the IDF soldier's way of meditating. It's like shooting is your way of letting go of all your anger when you're in the army. In Hebron there's this order they call 'punitive shooting': just open fire on whatever you like. I opened fire not on any sources of fire but on windows where there was just wash hanging to dry. I knew that there were people who would be hit. But at that moment it was just shoot, shoot, shoot." - R.O.I., 19-year-old IDF paratrooper

Harper's Magazine, April, 2002 (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1111/is_1823_304/ai_84184698)

Loki
01-09-2005, 02:57 AM
Originally Posted by AntiYuppie
Not only should our government not participate in Tsunami relief, but private individuals and charities should be discouraged from doing so as well. Third Worlders breed like flies as it is, from the perspective of population control this Tsunami and the likely outbreak of various epidemics that will follow may turn out to be the best thing that has ever happened to some of these nations.


Damn right! I agree wholeheartedly.

Sulla the Dictator
01-09-2005, 11:01 PM
I would support a tax aimed directly at the members of racialist organizations in order to raise money for disaster relief.

starr
01-09-2005, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator
I would support a tax aimed directly at the members of racialist organizations in order to raise money for disaster relief.



And how much money has a generous Jew such as yourself contributed?



Why on earth would it be immoral for the west not to help? Why on earth do we westerners owe these sub-humans a living?


You are completely right. We do not owe them anything. Looking at this thing from a racial perspective, I think it would be immoral to contribute anything. We should be only concerned about our own survival.

Edana
01-09-2005, 11:02 PM
Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator
I would support a tax aimed directly at the members of racialist organizations in order to raise money for disaster relief.


..........

JAT
01-09-2005, 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator
I would support a tax aimed directly at the members of racialist organizations in order to raise money for disaster relief.

Is there any particular basis for that?

Sulla the Dictator
01-10-2005, 11:02 PM
Originally Posted by starr
And how much money has a generous Jew such as yourself contributed?


$200 ....

Sulla the Dictator
01-10-2005, 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by JAT
Is there any particular basis for that?


Consider it society doing its best to save your soul from the eternal fires of hell.

Hakluyt
01-10-2005, 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by cerberus
One member quoted Kennedy , only difference is that cows and animals are not member sof the human race.

So what? You don't think cows can feel pain or suffer?

cerberus
01-10-2005, 11:04 PM
Oswald M. when you consider that we did "third worlders" a favour by colonising their lands and helping ourselves whilst parading it as helping them you are far mistaken.
I would ask fade to consider your charity towards others in the third world and consider again if Empire still exists.

Your angle is basically racists and superior.
You can only defend non help on the basis of race.

Why should we help , because people are dying and more will die.
Call it brotherly love if you like , I call it humanity.

One member quoted Kennedy , only difference is that cows and animals are not member sof the human race.

Your comments regarding the helath service are way off Oswald.
Regarding our Army , think of India , Nepal , Setars who crewed so many merchant ships .

Your racist view of " third worlders" is one which discounts those who fought on the Allied side in two world wars.
Like Sulla I have put my hand in my pocket , I have no problem doing so , I see no need to defend doing so.

Thermonuclear_Warrior
01-12-2005, 11:05 PM
We need more tsunamis in Asia to destroy more cheap labor.

Snouter
01-12-2005, 11:05 PM
Originally Posted by cerberus
Oswald M. when you consider that we did "third worlders" a favour by colonising their lands and helping ourselves whilst parading it as helping them you are far mistaken.


History shows that the best thing to happen to the third world was European colonization. One of the unfortunate things to happen to the third world was their adoption of Marxist ideology in some cases. The worst thing to happen to the third world was to let them alone without a strictly enforced sterilization program.

Dan
01-12-2005, 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by starr
I can somewhat agree with the sterilization thing, but I think it is basically the best thing to just leave them alone. Without any kind of western help, many of these turd-worlders won't last that long anyway. Look at the filth and disease these so-called people live in. disgusting. Let them die by their own hand, why should we care?

I agree, no need for sterilization. Why waste the money? If we’d just stop sending food, medicine, doctors, and the like their way; the third world’s population would go into massive decline.

starr
01-12-2005, 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by John Rocker
History shows that the best thing to happen to the third world was European colonization. One of the unfortunate things to happen to the third world was their adoption of Marxist ideology in some cases. The worst thing to happen to the third world was to let them alone without a strictly enforced sterilization program.



I can somewhat agree with the sterilization thing, but I think it is basically the best thing to just leave them alone. Without any kind of western help, many of these turd-worlders won't last that long anyway. Look at the filth and disease these so-called people live in. disgusting. Let them die by their own hand, why should we care?

cerberus
01-13-2005, 11:07 PM
luh_windan-So what? You don't think cows can feel pain or suffer?
The difference being that you have never to your knowledge eaten a human being in a "Big Mac" , have you ?

Sulla the Dictator
01-13-2005, 11:07 PM
Originally Posted by Dan
I agree, no need for sterilization. Why waste the money? If we’d just stop sending food, medicine, doctors, and the like their way; the third world’s population would go into massive decline.


I'd make a trade off. I'll favor all your brutal methods of dealing with the third world if the Western world is able to rid itself of the cancer of white supremacists by shooting you all.

Become martyrs, please.

JAT
01-13-2005, 11:08 PM
How often do you encounter "white supremacy" in your average day, Sulla?

Sulla the Dictator
01-13-2005, 11:08 PM
Originally Posted by JAT
How often do you encounter "white supremacy" in your average day, Sulla?


Every day I log in here. http://www.phøra.org/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Isn't it worth the sacrifice, JAT?

JAT
01-13-2005, 11:09 PM
No. Let nature take its course.

Sulla the Dictator
01-13-2005, 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by JAT
No. Let nature take its course.


Well, other than bother me with your callousness, the opinions expressed in this thread will have no effect in the real world.

And I will take some solace in knowing that all of your tax dollars will be going to feed the children of Indonesia.

cerberus
01-13-2005, 11:10 PM
The face of "White Power" , looks rather like a "Blazing Saddles" meets "Frank Spencer"
" Where's the white women at" http://www.phøra.org/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Pseudo SS men in meaningless uniforms , with meaningless ribbons.

The faithful Marching- looks like a kind of right wing orange order , in the back ground you can almost hear "Talking Heads" singing " Wehr on the Road to Nowhere".

The men they seek kinship to , some difference don't you think.

starr
01-13-2005, 11:14 PM
I agree, no need for sterilization. Why waste the money? If we’d just stop sending food, medicine, doctors, and the like their way; the third world’s population would go into massive decline.

Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator
I'd make a trade off. I'll favor all your brutal methods of dealing with the third world if the Western world is able to rid itself of the cancer of white supremacists by shooting you all.

.



It would appear that the phoney, bleeding-heart Sulla the Jew is a bit bothered by your words, Dan. http://www.phøra.org/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif Tell me Sulla just how is cutting off aid using "brutal methods"? Why do we owe these people anything? If people in certain parts of the world are unable to survive without our help, why is that our problem? Are these type of people such a great loss?


Become martyrs, please.


Becoming a martyr is what I suggested for you. I see you have yet to take my advice.

Dan
01-13-2005, 11:15 PM
Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator
I'd make a trade off. I'll favor all your brutal methods of dealing with the third world if the Western world is able to rid itself of the cancer of white supremacists by shooting you all.

Become martyrs, please.

What is so horrible about forcing the third world into self-subsistence? Face it there is no nice way to do it. We either cut them off and most of them die, or they’re dependent on us forever and we continue to pay out more and more as the populations of these countries grow.

JAT
01-14-2005, 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator
Well, other than bother me with your callousness, the opinions expressed in this thread will have no effect in the real world.

And I will take some solace in knowing that all of your tax dollars will be going to feed the children of Indonesia.

Isn't it too bad those people are too primitive to see to their own needs? Why excatly is that do you suppose, Sulla?

I'll take some solace in knowing that the White race once again is required to see to the needs of the little brown inferior masses as they are too limited in their racial development to take care of themselves, which is no surprise to those of us who comprehend the realities of race.

JAT
01-14-2005, 11:11 PM
Oh how stupid. Cannot you add something enriching to the discussion?

Sulla the Dictator
01-14-2005, 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by JAT
Isn't it too bad those people are too primitive to see to their own needs?


Yes, it is unfortunate. Fortunately, YOU will be paying for them.


I'll take some solace in knowing that the White race once again is required to see to the needs of the little brown inferior masses as they are too limited in their racial development to take care of themselves


Whatever makes you feel better. I'm glad something helps cure your bitterness at your tax dollars being used to feed an orphaned child.

Sulla the Dictator
01-14-2005, 11:12 PM
Originally Posted by JAT
Oh how stupid. Cannot you add something enriching to the discussion?


LOL Talking about how "inferior the brown people" are is a hard act to follow. Continue to dazzle us.

cerberus
01-14-2005, 11:12 PM
JAT . We just have the good fortune to be in one of the more stable and better provided for regions of the world.
had we , the white race been located in some less fortunate area we might have different views and our needs might be somewhay more acute than they are at present.
Talk of white and brown is only skin deep , ultimately its quite meaningless.

Dan
01-14-2005, 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by cerberus
JAT . We just have the good fortune to be in one of the more stable and better provided for regions of the world.
had we , the white race been located in some less fortunate area we might have different views and our needs might be somewhay more acute than they are at present.
Talk of white and brown is only skin deep , ultimately its quite meaningless.

So you're from the camp that seems to think that White Nations are overflowing with natural resources and fertile farmland. And the third world is some kind of barren desert where no one would have had a chance.

White and Brown are not just skin-deep take a look around you. Blacks and Browns aren't just stupid and violent in some places; they stay that way wherever they go. It's even that way in the wonderful multicultural utopia of Brazil. And there are thousands of studies that show they are less intelligent, is there even one that shows otherwise?

The third world is filled with natural resources and acres and acres of fertile farmland. In this regard I would say Africa is far more blessed than Europe, but Europe is the one that is rich and Africa is poor.

If White and Brown are really only skin deep then answer me these questions. Why are there no wealthy Black run states with standards of living comparable to those of Iceland or Singapore? Why are Blacks committing crimes at higher rates than non Blacks in every country they inhabit? Why are they doing much worse in school than non Blacks in all of those countries? And why are Blacks so underrepresented in occupations that require high intelligence?

JAT
01-14-2005, 11:13 PM
So, the people who occupy an area have nothing to do with what sort of standard of living they possess? The standard of living is perhaps dependent on some magic talismans buried under the soil?

Edana
01-14-2005, 11:14 PM
A few articles have been posted tackling the assumption that international welfare really helps people. Want to tackle those, Sulla, or continue playing Noble Robin Hood?

otto_von_bismarck
01-14-2005, 11:14 PM
The type of charities that really help people aren't of the government( ironically called non-government organizations) type.

ThuleanFire
01-14-2005, 11:16 PM
Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator
I'd make a trade off. I'll favor all your brutal methods of dealing with the third world if the Western world is able to rid itself of the cancer of white supremacists by shooting you all.

Become martyrs, please.


If you actually did have any concern for "the Western world," you'd rethink that suggestion. Without any type of "illiberal" resistance, the West would become the Third World as a result of its real cancer: openness and tolerance and equality.

You know, you've touched on my consolation prize: if racial nationalists do fail in the future to change the course of society, at least I can take heart in knowing that poetic justice will be delivered when the last few Whites living on this planet in the year 2100 are necklaced with gasoline-filled tires at the hands of the Third Worlders that they felt such "compassion" for. How I hope the last two Whites on earth will be a liberal and a conservative/libertarian type, being abused in a nursing home at the hands of the Third World nurses they helped import.