My take on homosexuality

[Metal Gear]

I am of the opinion that homosexuality is a choice. First of all, what one fantasizes about does not have to translate to action, so somebody can be attracted to the same sex, yet not be involved with them for a variety of reasons. But secondly, indeed even the urges people fantasize about are programmable, all the way from being attracted to family members, to bestiality, to sexually sadistic/necrophiliac serial killers, to interracial attraction, to attraction to children, to being attracted to the same sex.

This may come to a shock to many of the racialists on this forum, but it is my viewpoint. While one does not chose the amount of testosterone they are born with, indeed, sexual attraction is culturally relative and environmentally influenced. You may have relatives, brothers/sisters, mothers/fathers, and they may be attractive, yet you are able to not feel attracted to them, because you are culturally conditioned not to. Not to mention people are more attracted to people within their ethnic group than outside of it, despite any alleged universal standards of human beauty, the correlation still holds.

Many ask "why would people chose this." The answer is that people make bad choices all the time. Idealists make models of human behavior, assuming that people always promote their best interests, but clearly they don't. Just as economic models based on the assumption of people perusing self-interest fail (this is widely known in the field of economics), so do other models of human behavior. Just because it's ideal for somebody to not behave a certain way, does not mean they will live up to the ideal. Why do we have jails, why are regimes constantly overthrown, and why is there war? The point is that the answer is similar, humanity cannot be counted on to peruse its best collective or individual interests, if such a standard of morality even exists to begin with!

The mind is a programmable machine, and homosexuals program themselves to be deviants. I totally reject the idea that someone can be born gay, because of a gay gene, or because of of a "female brain in a male" or a "male brain in a female."

[William Shatner]

Homosexuality does not require one to act upon one's sexual attraction. Closet homosexuals are homosexuals nonetheless, even if they are married to a woman and have children.

The biggest mistake people make in the homosexual question is the belief that in order to take a stand against it, then it must be a matter of choice. However, history is not without precedents of governments and state's criminalizing things that entire classes of people cannot control (race, sex, etc.).

Though I cannot say with an absolute amount of certainty I'm almost 99% sure that homosexuality is a combination of genetics, socialization, and choice, with a heavy burden on the individual's genes. The latter two qualifications only encourage or deter the development of an openly homosexual individual.

[Wahdahurriya]

Homosexuality is a product of the culture and outside influence. Where there is a liberal, immoral influence, homosexuality is a possible product. Homosexuality today is a cultural product of Western societies and their attempts to force its acceptance on the Arab, African, Latino and other societies prove that it is to be discarded by civilized peoples.

[NeoFichte]

By corroding the moral fabric of our society, the Jew, through his enormous influence in the communications media, is ultimately responsible for the homosexual plague.

[Ned Malone]

Many ask "why would people chose this." The answer is that people make bad choices all the time. Idealists make models of human behavior, assuming that people always promote their best interests, but clearly they don't. Just as economic models based on the assumption of people perusing self-interest fail (this is widely known in the field of economics), so do other models of human behavior. Just because it's ideal for somebody to not behave a certain way, does not mean they will live up to the ideal. Why do we have jails, why are regimes constantly overthrown, and why is there war? The point is that the answer is similar, humanity cannot be counted on to peruse its best collective or individual interests, if such a standard of morality even exists to begin with!


I partly agree, partly disagree.

The reason why people make the choice to deviate comes from a combination of factors. The first factor I think, is sexual indulgence and its ensuing boredom. This causes people to "experiment sexually" which in turn leads to worse and worse perversions the more "experimentation" goes on. Lack of parental supervision, and concern allows for abuse and self-abuse to take place, either from the exploitation of others or self-exploitation. The social-environmental explanation is more complicated of course. Then there is the very real genetic explanations, which I don't think we can cast aside. Choice is the wild card. This brings up the whole question: Do I have choice? Free-will? People like Holbach would say no. Kant would say yes.
I believe the best solution to sexual deviancy and frustration, is chastity, self-control, abstience. I have found that chastity gives you strength even in the worst situations. This is the starting point, from which, we can begin talking of a standard of morality for all people, regardless of their genetic differences.

[Lord Satan]

Both homo- and heterosexuality are equally repulsive, whether they are biological or social in origin is of little consequence.

[Apocales]

Both homo- and heterosexuality are equally repulsive, whether they are biological or social in origin is of little consequence.

Not like you could land a dude or a chick, but I understand your CPU has made you sterile.

[Metal Gear]

I just read the post I wrote and have to say I've sunk.

My posts lately are angry rants. But this opening post from a year ago was all rationality and logic.

The bad economy has turned me into a very toxic angry person. lol.